Come and Sing – We Did!


Tideswell Male Voice Choir in our Haiti appeal concert at St John's Church, Buxton

Tideswell Male Voice Choir in our Haiti appeal concert at St John’s Church, Buxton.


Come-and-Sing Project – Our Experiences

What makes this project exciting? Here’s the story of one choirman:

What a year it has been for me. It started with a visit to Morrison’s, Buxton, in Dec 09. Whilst shop­ping I heard music, and turn­ing to my wife said “That’s not piped music. It’s a Choir.” We hur­riedly fin­ished our shop­ping and on the way out, found a group of men carol sing­ing. Straight in for a cof­fee and a lis­ten. The lis­ten turned out to be a mere 90 min­utes, where we sat, list­ened and sang along with a group of men, to some of whom we got chat­ting. “Why not come and join us?” was the temp­ting invit­ation. Large oaks and little acorns?

March/April of 2010, there was a challenge issued to the men of Buxton—“Come and Sing”—so I did, little know­ing how my life was to change so dram­atic­ally. Around 40 of us, helped by some strang­ers who quickly be­came friends, were quickly to be­come a Choir. July saw us per­form­ing, on our own, and along­side the famous Tides­well Male Voice Choir in the St John’s Church at the Buxton Fringe.

October saw us on the stage of the famous Buxton Opera House. What a Spec­tac­ular, and the pride felt after such an event. One ques­tion filled many of our minds, however—what next? This was quickly ans­wered at an eve­ning in the Palace. Yes, it may have been the hotel in Buxton, but that night, when we each re­ceived a Cer­tif­icate of Achieve­ment which proudly hangs on the wall in front of me it could very easily have been “Buck House”, we were all invited, nay persuaded, to join the TMVC. Little did I know what I was let­ting my­self in for! Novem­ber be­came the start of twice-weekly trips to Tides­well for Choir Prac­tice. It also be­came the start of “call­ing for a jar or two with the lads after­wards”, and what a great bunch of lads it is. We were welcomed from the word go!, and quickly be­came part of the team.

It also led to a rather full calendar. Helping to strip out the new Club Room. Trips to Castle­ton to sing in the “Devil’s Arse”, sing­ing in the cold in Tides­well, two out­ings singing in the famous Painted Hall at Chats­worth, singing outdoors at the Lower Pavements at Chester­field, and in the Court­yard of Chats­worth, along with sing­ing in Morrison’s (back to the begin­ning) with a Christ­mas Spec­tacular! at the Palace Hotel thrown in, led to a final Christ­mas Spec­tacular! at the Wind­ing Wheel in Ches­ter­field, where we per­formed with the Sir Rich­ard Ark­wright Masson Mills Band, and the won­der­ful chil­dren’s choir from South Darley Primary School in front of a rather large crowd—which in­cluded two rather large Chains of Off­ice on the front row. I rather feel that my “Uni­form”, al­though not yet the full uni­form, of black shoes, trous­ers, shirt, tie and TMVC Sweat­shirt, seems to be worn more fre­quently than my best suit. I’ve even got to the stage of look­ing at the calen­dar sim­ply to see what day it is.

Oh, I forgot. We’ve not finished the year yet. We’ve still to go to the Palace Hotel on New Year’s Eve. The extra buzz is the fact that we are rais­ing money for worth­while charities.

I know we have much more to look forward to, but I must say that I have a sneak­ing feel­ing for look­ing for­ward to visit­ing St.David’s in March. Hav­ing been there on hol­iday, I know what a won­der­ful place it is.

Who said “Life begins at Forty”? Life begins when, ir­res­pec­tive of age, you encounter the TIDESWELL MALE VOICE CHOIR!

EH 24/12/10

The first time Come-and-Sing men met choirmen to find out what it’s all about

The first time that the Come-and-Sing men met choirmen to find out what it’s all about


Here’s a second testimonial:

I joined TMVC in March 2010, inspired by hearing the choir sing at the Buxton Opera House the previous October.

At that concert an announce­ment was made about the Come and Sing! project, due to start in the new year. Having not sung form­ally since leav­ing school in 1968, I thought that might be an ideal way of dipp­ing a toe in the water to find out if I could still sing well enough to join the choir and how much I would enjoy it. This plan was scup­pered, how­ever, by rehear­sal night being Fri­day, which I couldn’t make with any regu­lar­ity. And so, encour­aged by the pos­itiv­ity of Den­nis Kay (the Musi­cal Direc­tor) and all the mem­bers to whom I had sp­oken on the ’phone and at the C&S intro­duc­tory even­ing, ‘dip­ping a toe’ turned into jump­ing in with both feet and join­ing the Choir.

I rather naively hoped that read­ing music and sing­ing would be like riding a bike – I’d be rusty, sure, but it would soon come back. It took about half an hour at my first rehear­sal to real­ise that this was more than a tad opti­mistic. Breath con­trol, voice pro­duc­tion tech­nique, facial ex­pres­sion, pro­nun­cia­tion! There was a lot more to this sing­ing lark than I’d appre­cia­ted – cer­tainly to sing­ing to the Choir’s and Den­nis’s stan­dards – and that’s with­out learn­ing the words and music to sing a reper­toire of some 50 songs with­out a score! Was I sure about this?

Three hours on – What a great night! I’ve found the people of the Peak Dis­trict in gen­eral very wel­com­ing since I moved here in July 2009, but this was per­haps the friend­liest and most help­ful welcome I’ve received any­where, both in the rehear­sal room and The Star after­wards. And the im­medi­ate thrill of being in the middle of har­mon­ised male voices was some­thing else, even if I wasn’t con­tribut­ing any­thing at that stage.

Five months on – any qualms are com­pletely long gone.

Under Dennis’s excel­lent and per­sis­tent tui­tion, basic tech­niques seem to be deve­lop­ing, al­though they’re ta­king time to be­come in­grained habits and still want to dis­ap­pear if con­cen­tration wavers or is cen­tred on learn­ing the nuts and bolts of new pieces.

I’ve pain­fully absor­bed enough words and music to enable me to thor­oughly enjoy sing­ing in half a dozen or so con­certs. To date these have been mainly in chur­ches, but I’m look­ing for­ward with anti­cipa­tion to sing­ing at the more varied and larger venues in which the Choir per­forms, especially ‘on tour’.

With the bene­fit of hind­sight, I don’t think that I real­ised in ad­vance how seriously TMVC take their sing­ing and per­form­ing, both individu­ally and as a group, and how com­mitted to it I would have to be. I soon found, how­ever, that Dennis’s great am­bitions for the Choir’s future are backed by the members’ keen­ness for pro­gress and will­ing­ness to work to ach­ieve it – both in per­form­ance and be­hind the scenes. There’s an awful lot to be done, in all sorts of ways, if our am­bitions are to be real­ised but I look for­ward to play­ing a part in it for, hope­fully, many years to come.

But most of all I look for­ward to the fun, the cam­arad­erie and the ful­fil­ment which the last five months make me sure my years with TMVC will bring.

AWB 11/8/10

Dennis with two project members

Dennis with two Come & Sing project members


And here’s a third man’s story...

Just over a year ago I went to a singing work­shop run by Dennis Kay at Hope College. It had been fif­teen years since I sang in a choir and I wasn’t sure that my voice still worked! Anyway I turned up, joined in and had a good sing. Whether I was any good or not I still didn’t know, but I did know that I en­joyed the group sing­ing. When Den­nis sug­ges­ted that I came along to a few choir prac­tices I thought I’d give it a go.

From my previous experience of three years’ sing­ing in a mixed voice choir I thought I knew what a choir prac­tice was all about. This was dif­fer­ent. A rowdy bunch of charac­ters barg­ing about in a church hall in Tides­well, sud­denly brought to order by a loud roar from some ser­geant-major type hovering in a corner!

Then the work began – and I mean work. The Musical Direc­tor (Dennis Kay) star­ted promptly on time and laun­ched into what was effec­tively a two-hour sing­ing lesson. He put the choir through its paces; if he wasn’t happy with a phrase or a pas­sage he would ex­plain what they were doing wrong, tell them how to get it right and then re-sing the phrase until he had knocked it into shape. (His tech­niques to ach­ieve this ranged from out­right com­edy, through drama to spec­ific threats of phys­ical harm!)

At that first practice I could see just how com­mit­ted the choir was. All sorts of people from all walks of life, but with one thing in com­mon – they loved to sing and were pre­pared to work hard at sing­ing better.

The sound the choir made was also different from my pre­vious choir experi­ence. Male voice choirs are some­thing spe­cial. The quiet pieces can be breath­taking, making the hairs on the back of your neck stand up; the louder songs can cres­cendo to a solid, con­trolled and bal­anced force that threat­ens to knock walls down! Being a part of that sound is simply tremendous.

When the practice came to an end there was a resump­tion of the pre­vious babble of conver­sation, this time with a repeated theme of ‘are you going down the road?’ This trans­lated into a very enjoy­able visit to a local hos­telry where the qual­ity of the ale was matched by the qual­ity of ba­nter, friend­ship and camaraderie.

A year on I’m still learning the ropes, but I’ve enjoyed every min­ute and wish I had star­ted years back.

EJ 09/03/10

So much to discover, in so short a time

So much to discover, in so short a time


And a fourth, which was written before the start of the Come & Sing project...

Hello, my name’s Peter. I joined the choir in June 2008 aged 64. At that time I’d had virtu­ally no experi­ence of sing­ing. No school sing­ing other than (reluct­antly) in the daily ass­embly, a few church ser­vices while a teen­ager, then noth­ing. Not even sing­ing in the bath! Through all this time I didn’t know whether I could sing or not. I was some­times acc­used of hav­ing a tune­less whistle, so would my voice turn out the same? I could hear diff­erent notes, but I couldn’t tell you what notes they were, and never hav­ing heard my own voice I didn’t know where it sat in rela­tion to other men’s.

Fast-forward to spring 2008, when I found my­self being attrac­ted into the social circle of the Tides­well choir in their post-practice gather­ings at my local. Den­nis and Co. talked me into hav­ing a go, so eventu­ally I screwed up the cour­age to turn up at a prac­tice. As I couldn’t reach the up­per half of the bari­tone regis­ter I was put in the bass sec­tion. There I put down roots and I’ve stayed ever since. It turns out that I’m def­initely a bass. And with a good deal of help from my friends I’ve found that I do have a use­ful voice after all – phew!

The next hurdle was to learn some lines. The choir has well over two hun­dred scores in its lib­rary, and it seemed to me at first that they were in­tent on going through the lot be­fore I could learn even the first! But with a bit of perse­ver­ance I did eventu­ally build up enough confid­ence to be able to sing a few songs with­out the scores in hand.

Then in spring 2009 the choir went on a tour of Corn­wall, perform­ing eight times in six days. This was just, simply... magical. The occ­asion was an inter­national male-voice choral fest­ival invol­ving some 3,000 men and dozens of con­certs. What an aston­ishing experience! I was unprepared for the sheer excite­ment, sus­tained day after day as we went to one town after an­other to sing along­side other choirs, some with next-to-no English. We even sang at the Minack open-air amphi­theatre at Land’s End. Mere words can­not relate the thrill of sing­ing in this spec­tac­ular place.

Perusing the pages of this web­site will show what other places we’ve sung in. Every one was special in its way of course, but two high­lights stand out for me: the con­cert at the Oct­agon with choirs from Hope Valley Coll­ege, who were wonder­ful to work with – such energy, en­thusi­asm and in­nate talent – and of course the incom­par­able thrill of sing­ing at Buxton Opera House with Cantamus girls’ choir in our annual Gala Con­cert. My mother was in the audi­ence this time, and after­wards she seemed to float sev­eral in­ches above the ground, so proud and ex­cited was she that her son had achi­eved such a feat. So within a year, and in spite of my hav­ing more diff­iculty than most in learn­ing lines, the choir had brought me from noth­ing at all to being a bit of an asset. And if they did it for me, they can do it for anyone.

Anyone joining [the Come & Sing] project will of course be free to leave at any time up to its cli­max next October, but we all hope that some will want to go fur­ther and we hope they will de­cide to join us. The choir­men are so warm and friendly, and the comrade­ship so fulfil­ling, the music so reward­ing, that I wan­ted to tell the men around Bux­ton what a won­derful time they are guaran­teed to have if they will gird their loins (so to speak), get them­selves along and join up to have a go, and —

Come and Sing!

PRH 28/11/09


Updated 1 January 2011


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